1. Pete opened the meeting at 10:14 am. A sign in sheet was passed around and documents were handed out.
2. Proxy's were accepted to vote before meeting.
3. Meeting minutes from July 2nd meeting were voted on. Pat Doyle made the motion, Steve Schuman 2nd the motion. Motion accepted.
4. Seven responses to make changes in by-law Articles XIV and III.
5. Long discussion pursued regarding Article XIV.
Dave Fedorchak made a motion to change date back to 1994 original Grandfather clause. Tim Knight 2nd the motion. Show of hands vote, motion denied.
Ellie Parker made a motion to accept Article XIV and that the association may accept an agreement between members in good standing regarding sharing a dock space and recording it. Barbara Wennik 2nd the motion. Show of hands vote, motion accepted.
6. Article III, Pete read. Steven Schuman made a motion to accept article. Brian Fisher 2nd the motion. Show of hand vote, motion passed.
7. Discussion about dock committee, Rick Gifford, Mike O'Connor and Gerry White, issues go to them. Helen gave copy of 2003 waiting list to Mike O'Connor. Suggestion to post dock list on web.
8. Pete spoke about letter Rene Farley sent to him and he gave his response. Everyone got a copy.
9. Letter to Town of Malta -every one got a copy -about Locust Rd.
10. Receipts for family day were handed in. $***. Thank you to Sue and Bill Sykela for piñata.
11. It was asked that we post in boxes about when there is a board meeting.
12. King Road -maintaining Rd. because of excess use. Matt Hatlock raked road with new stone.
13. Shirts - $3.00 for each goes back to the association.
14. Helen White, Treasurer, gave treasurers report.
79 paid members
Frank Parker made a motion to approve the report, Mike O'Connor 2nd, motion approved.
15. Fire department donation: motion by John Viola to reduce donation from $*** to $***. Dave Fedorchak 2nd, motion approved.
16. Saratoga Lake Association donation: tabled until July meeting.
17. Mike O'Connor made a motion to adjourn meeting, Fisher 2nd, meeting adjourned.
Back to Top1. Randy Croote, Association President, opened the meeting approximately 10am. A sign in sheet was passed around.
2. Helen White, Treasurer, gave treasurers report.
3. Pete Scalici made a motion to except meeting minutes for July 2004 meeting. Barbara Wennik 2nd the motion. Minutes were passed.
4. Randy spoke on bylaws. Stated he and Pete Scalici were working on and also given to attorney to look over. A line was formed to hand out bylaws and a sheet was signed to show member received a copy. The bylaws were strongly suggested for incorporation by the attorney. Randy explained anything done in regular type was already in place when the bylaws were amended in 1994. Anything written in bold was new and what we were going to change. He turned the floor over to Pete Scalici and he reiterated what Randy explained and also that the bylaws were not "cast in stone" and are able to be changed, but that the lawyer felt we should get them in place as soon as possible.
5. After bylaws were handed out a large discussion took place with many members taking part as to vote today or not to vote today. Some of the comments made were: John Viola asked that we vote on amendments and not to wait incase there was no quorum at the September meeting. Frank Parker opposed voting meeting day as a decision should not be make in haste. Ellie Parker agreed. Laura Brush made a motion to wait to vote on family day, Ellie Parker 2nd with changing date to Aug. 6. Frank Parker thinks members should be sent copy of bylaws by registered mail and another meeting set up so all members could be involved. Mike O'Connor had a lengthy comment about members not showing up at meetings. A discussion pursued on Article III about voting someone out of association. Also discussions on having association lawyer meet with membership. Renee Farley and others commented that the meeting announcement stated members would have "opportunity to review and provide written comments to Mr. Scalici by a specified date. The final version will then be submitted to SLAA attorney for evaluation. A membership vote will follow." She also asked that this be stated in the minutes. Peter stated the announcement is not a legal document. There was discussion and explanation about proxy. A discussion about if the entire board had input on the new amendments was discussed. Helen White wanted to get on with Laura Brush's motion. Laura Bush tabled her motion, Ellie Parker 2nd. No voting on motion was done. A motion by John Viola and 2nd by Mike O'Connor to take a roll call vote to accept bylaws was made. The decision to take a roll call vote to accept the bylaws was made. A roll call vote was taken and the bylaws were accepted 25 yes votes to 22 no votes. 47 paid members voted constituting a quorum. (1/3 of paid membership). Peter Scalici then stated any comments or question regarding bylaws should be directed to him at his email address peter.scalici@nypa.gov or home address 1546 Oakfield Ave., Wantagh, NY 11793 or camp 4150 Silver Beach. Peter Scalici asked written comments be in by July 30th.
6. The official address give by Malta Postmaster for Lakeside Acres Assoc. is 91 Lakeshore Dr. A mailbox will be at the corner of Silver Beach Rd. & King Rd.
7. Randy spoke on the private property issue he stated in the meeting announcement. An issue was brought up about someone destroying private property and can someone unilaterally decide to do something on the association private property. Then a letter was read by Randy from the attorney which then opened up a large discussion about Renee Farley opening Locust Rd. Renee and Ian Farley have access to the paper road to access their lot as required by law. The SLAA has the right to set balancing factors to insure it is improved properly and not done in a manner injurious to others who benefit the easement. Ms. Farley stated she will improve the road and will not open the road beyond the access point to their property and has no intensions of doing so in the future. We as an organization have the right to require permission and get involved in the request. Ms. Farley made a motion to ask for permission to open the road, Scott White 2nd the motion. 25 votes approved 2 opposed. Motion granted. This does not mean all deeds have access rights. It is on a case by case basis. Albert Valenty made a motion to table the discussion on Ms. Farley opening the road and Dave Frieghtenburgh 2nd. Motion not entertained issue was voted on.
8. Family Day will be held July 30th. A motion was made by Frank Parker to spend $600 and 2nd by John Viola. Motion granted.
9. Albert Valenty asked about ownership of blue boat and to have it removed. No one took ownership.
10. Election of officer's as Randy stepped down as president and Paul Lucier's tenure as a board director had expired. Paper ballots were taken.
Nomination for president:
11. Steve Schumann made a motion to adjourn the meeting, Scott White 2nd. Meeting adjourned.
Back to Top1. Randy Croote, Association President, opened meeting at 10:10am. A sign-in sheet was passed around.
2. Board was introduced. Asked if any new members.
3. Randy spoke of the talking paper he made up to go through things that were discussed in the past or asked about. Talking papers were handed out.
4. Last meeting minutes were either emailed or hard copy mailed. Motion was made by Steve Schuman to accept the minutes,
5. John Viola asked if any one present not a member. Christine Karsky, Terry & Joe Zeller. Pete Scalici made an announcement made a statement that our lawyer suggested we could have closed meetings for paid members only. This will take place in the future. Christine Karsky said she was an attorney, agent (for Renee Farley). Randy stated that this was private property and could be a private meeting, however decided not to pursue at this meeting; she stated we could sue her for trespassing.
6. Randy mentioned blue sheet under sign-in sheet was to be filled out only if you had any address, etc. changes.
7. Randy spoke regarding talking paper #1, the drainage problem or lack of. Suggestion was made to request the town of Malta to update the 1998 Clough Harbor Engineering study. Can only be done if there is a request and the town accepts to doing it. Randy will take charge of making the request. This will help us and the town with future developing. Across Silver Beach Rd. is our problem as private property. Discussion will continue later in the meeting.
8. Randy spoke regarding talking paper #2, deed/title review. Something necessary and board took an action so we can better serve and represent the members about SLAA rights. Randy will keep everyone abreast of the cost, to date around $300.00. It is still a work in progress.
9. Talking paper #3, by-laws update. Pete Scalici will take over this project.
10. Talking paper #4, joining forces with other associations regarding drawing of water from the lake. We support not drawing of water. Letter was read from Saratoga Lake Association thanking us for our donation and sale of calendars $10.00 each.
11. Talking paper #5, opening up lines of communication with Riley's Cove Corporation. Common issues i.e. drainage, helping to work together.
12. Talking paper #6, website updated. saratogalakesideacresassociation.org, what is on it, etc.
13. Randy spoke of the lakefront & GOLDEN RULE, removal of trash, boats, boat lifts, using private property for personal use and respecting the private property. Ramification of refusing to remove personal property from SLAA private property could be notification to remove by a set date. If you chose not to do that the attorney will call the sheriff and the sheriff will come and observe the removal and owner will be billed. Lakefront should be cleared by July 4th.
A dog leash is in effect in the Town of Malta. Dogs should not be running around. If it does its business on private property, please clean it up. (Randy does not want it in his kids' toes.)
14. Malta Ridge Vol. Fire Dept. donation. Mr. Valenty made a motion to donate $500.00 annually,
15. 8th annual family community day will be held Sunday, July 25th. Viola and Schuman families will organize.
16. Mr. Valenty spoke about issue of spending money. He made a motion to take a vote on anything over $500.00 which is already in effect, motion not passed. Paul Lucier spoke on same. Sub-committee formed to make a new by-law pertaining to extra money expenditures. Sub-committee members are Scott White, Patrick Doyle, Paul Lucier, and Mr. Valenty.
17. Mary Lucier asked who board members were. Randy read names: Randy Croote, President, Pete Scalici, Vice-president, Helen White, Treasurer, Barbara Knight, Secretary, Board members - Paul Lucier, Steve Schuman, Dave Fedorchak, Tom Clark, Pam Barnes and Pat Doyle.
18. Dave Fedorchak re-opened issue on drainage (line 7, talking paper #1). He made a motion for SLAA to present a letter to the Town of Malta requesting and update on the drainage study.
19. Dave Fedorchak made a motion that the association put in new culvert on Dunning Rd. east for drainage. Discussion pursued that if one gets all should etc., etc.
20. Renee Farley made a motion to hire an engineering firm to correct drainage problem, Discussion continued regarding unknown costs, uncertainties with water sources and watershed etc (see #18) nobody seconded, motion rescinded. Renee made a recommendation to form a committee to find out cost of correcting drainage problem on association property. Sub-committee members are Renee Farley, Pat Doyle, Virginia Clark, Rich Rezinski.
21. Mark Teal made a motion to put a portable restroom by bridge, end of Schulyer Rd. on association property. Discussion pursued,
22. Mr. Whitecki make a motion to put drainage pipes on association property to alleviate standing water on Crumb Rd. at his own expense with Randy or Pete or another assoc. member seeing project progress. Went on to say he has already done some excavating of this without association permission and wants to continue. Mr. Whitecki volunteered to remove pipes from SLAA property if motion not passed Discussion pursued about problems for other people, no one being qualified to see if it is being done right, etc.
23. Dave Fedorchak started a discussion on association paying for snowplowing in the winter. He will work on it as far as cost etc. for September meeting.
24. Issued mentioned that if anything is to be done on association property protocol is to ask the membership first, or next step in writing to the SLAA board via Randy Croote.
25. Mentioned was minutes being read. Adopted minutes will not be read at meeting. Treasurer's report reading; discussion about non-members being present. Pete mentioned moot point for this meeting. Treasurer's report will be read.
26. Mr. Whitecki made a motion to cut down a specific dying tree at own expense.
27. Dave Fedorchak made a motion requesting permission for he and Frank Parker to correct culvert problem on Dunning Rd. east at their own expense.
28. Helen White, Treasurer gave treasurers report:
29. Meeting adjourned. No motion made to adjourn.
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1. Randy Croote, Association President, called the meeting to order at 10:08 am. A sign-in sheet was passed around.
2. Helen White, Treasurer, gave treasurers report.
3. Randy opened meeting discussing web site, SARATOGALAKESIDEACRESASSOCIATION.ORG
4. Received revised by-laws from lawyer. The board will go over and make any further revisions. A copy will be sent to every member for any suggestion or revision. They can contact the board through phone, letter, etc. After revisions are done the lawyer will handle it again. They will be voted on and all members will receive and sign for a hard copy.
5. Water level and Saratoga water source. We support the Save the Lake Association and could use us by name as a support for any proposals that the county is looking at as a water source.
6. A rule for voting of officers and board members that was established at the last meeting included an officer or directors term would be for two years. This is not mandatory. If a membership is displeased with any officer or director a 2/3rds vote can remove said officer or board member.
7. Discussion on recent town board meeting. Several members attended to state opinions on drainage and development relevant to the association. Randy sent a letter to the chairman of the town planning board and its attorney stating that LSA wants to have a voice in any decision making, development, or any use or request to use any property or any member's property relative to how it would be affected by water issues etc.
8. Thank you to Viola and Schuman families for hosting family day. Great attendance - highly successful
9. Discussion on Save the Lake Assoc. We did join as an association and sent membership fee of $25.00. A show of hands said yes to make a donation to Save the Lake Assoc. John Viola made a motioned to donate $10.00 per LSA member ($730)
10. Steve Schuman asked to cross King Rd. to run underground electric line. Steve Schuman made a motion to allow him to run the line
11. Mike O'Connor went to town about speed limit. Town will respond with new sign-age.
12. Paul Martin opened up a discussion on signing a petition to bring city water and gas into the association. The petition was not passed around. He will find out more about it.
13. Snow plowing roads - Mike Gaije asked if association could pay. End result was to get proposal from contractor as to how much.
14. Mike O'Connor asked that members be more diligent about getting winter storage and etc. off lake front by July 4th. Enforcement will be implemented next year.
15. Barbara Knight opened a discussion to pay Derek Croote for establishing and maintaining website. A show of hands agreed to pay him $*** for initial set up and $*** per hour for maintaining it.
16. Adjournment Motion to adjourn made by Barbara Wennick
